2013年麦迪关于姚明不能20分的言论
目录
缘由
- “麦迪真说了没有他喂球,姚明拿不到20分这种言论?” – 是真的吗?
- “麦迪说姚明不能25+15” – 是真的吗?
我们都是好孩子,我们从每个人都是善良的角度看世界。
不希望看球带仇恨,我们希望时间可以证明一切,人红是非多,怒伤肝、悲伤心、气伤肺、忧伤脾、恐伤肾、愁断肠,无需口水,让生活更多彩。
我们因姚明而骄傲,我们欣赏麦迪,我们享受姚麦时期的点滴。
原文
专访原文链接:http://grantland.com/the-triangle/grantland-archives-looking-back-at-tracy-mcgrady/
AUGUST 26, 2013
by GRANTLAND STAFF
Today, Tracy McGrady announced his retirement from the NBA. During this past season’s NBA Finals, Grantland’s Jonathan Abrams spent some time with McGrady, who was a peripheral member of the Spurs team that was taking on the Heat. Little did we know, that was the last we would see of T-Mac in an NBA uniform. Here’s an excerpt from Abrams’s piece, regarding McGrady’s up-and-down days as a Houston Rocket:
Jeff Van Gundy told McGrady that the Rockets would go only as far as he could take them.
That destination appeared to be out of the first round, at least, when the Rockets and Mavericks squared off in the 2005 playoffs. The Rockets won the first two games of the series in Dallas, highlighted by T-Mac’s memorable posterization of Shawn Bradley. “I was sitting right there,” said Carroll Dawson, Houston’s general manager, at the time. “Tracy came down on him like he was riding a horse.”
But the Rockets fumbled the middle three games away to Dallas before claiming the sixth and establishing a win-or-go-home seventh game. Dallas clubbed Houston in that game, 116-76.
McGrady averaged 30.7 points, his fourth consecutive series of 30 points or more. “He couldn’t have played any better,” said Barry, then a teammate of McGrady’s in Houston. “And every single guy on my team just felt awful for him because he put on an unbelievable performance, every single game, guarding Dirk Nowitzki.”
Dawson had promised owner Leslie Alexander that he would deliver a championship-caliber team before he retired. The moment finally seemed at hand as Yao posted averages of 21.4 points and 7.7 rebounds in the series. But the following season, McGrady began deferring to the ascendant Chinese big man as he began a long battle with back spasms. “Yao was a big part of our team, but he wasn’t a dominating guy like Shaq, a 25-and-15, a 25-and-14 guy,” McGrady said. “I don’t even think he averaged 20 points, so it was still a lot for me [to handle] because I’ve got to get him the ball.” Houston suffered another first-round Game 7 loss in 2007, this time to the Utah Jazz. They collapsed again after taking the first two games of the series. Afterward, Yao said he should shoulder the criticism and did not rebound to his capabilities. “That was one that really could have gone either way,” said Matt Harpring, who spent much of the series guarding McGrady. “It was just a couple of bounces here and there. I saw and heard Tracy after the game and saw that he was emotional. He should definitely know that he couldn’t have done anything more to have helped his team win.” McGrady went down fighting. He had 29 points, 13 assists, and five rebounds in the 103-99 Game 7 loss.
“This is why I understand why great players leave good situations and try to find great situations,” Van Gundy said. “Because the media has such an impact on your perception, and they have a tunnel vision for [how] championships equate greatness instead of situations — who you play with, who you play against — hav[ing] a big impact on how much you win. And this is where I think McGrady’s being short-changed a little bit.”
部分中文翻译
今天,麦迪(Tracy McGrady)宣布从NBA退役。在过去一个赛季的总决赛中,格兰特兰德的乔纳森·艾布拉姆斯与麦迪呆了一段时间,麦迪是马刺队对阵热火的外围成员。我们几乎不知道,那是我们最后一次看到T-Mac穿着NBA制服。以下摘自艾布拉姆斯(Abrams)的文章,内容涉及麦迪(McGrady)作为休斯敦火箭队的沉浮经历:
杰夫·范甘迪(Jeff Van Gundy)告诉麦迪(McGrady),火箭只会走得更远。
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麦迪场均得到30.7分,这是他连续第四个系列赛取得30分以上。“他的表现再好不过了,”当时麦迪在休斯顿的队友巴里说。“而且我们团队中的每个人都为他感到难过,因为他在防守德克·诺维茨基的每一场比赛中都表现出令人难以置信的表现。”
道森在退役前向老板莱斯利·亚历山大承诺,他将打造一支冠军球队。当姚在系列赛中场均拿下21.4分和7.7个篮板的时候,这个时刻似乎近在眼前。但是在接下来的赛季里,麦迪开始听从这位正在崛起的中国大个子的指挥,开始了与背部痉挛的长期斗争。“姚是我们球队的重要组成部分,但他不像沙克那样有统治力,25+15或25+14,”麦迪说。“我甚至不认为他场均能得到20分,所以这对我来说还是很困难的[处理球权],因为我得给他传球。”2007年,休斯顿又遭遇了第一轮第七场的失利,这次对手是犹他爵士。在拿下系列赛的前两场比赛后,他们再次崩溃。之后,姚说他应该承担批评,没有反弹到他的能力。马特·哈普林说,他在系列赛的大部分时间都在防守麦迪。“只是这里和那里的几次反弹。赛后我看到和听到了麦迪的讲话,看到他很情绪化。他应该清楚地知道,为了帮助球队取得胜利,他已经做了太多。麦迪继续战斗。在第7场比赛中,他得到了29分,13次助攻和5个篮板。
范甘迪说:“这就是为什么我理解为什么伟大的球员会离开好局面并试图找到好的局面的原因。” “因为媒体对您的看法有如此大的影响,并且他们对锦标赛如何等同于伟大而不是处境(与谁玩耍,与谁对抗)的隧道愿景产生了很大的影响赢得。这就是我认为麦迪(McGrady)有所改变的地方。”
重点说说20分
很有歧义的20分片段:
Dawson had promised owner Leslie Alexander that he would deliver a championship-caliber team before he retired. The moment finally seemed at hand as Yao posted averages of 21.4 points and 7.7 rebounds in the series. But the following season, McGrady began deferring to the ascendant Chinese big man as he began a long battle with back spasms. “Yao was a big part of our team, but he wasn’t a dominating guy like Shaq, a 25-and-15, a 25-and-14 guy,” McGrady said. “I don’t even think he averaged 20 points, so it was still a lot for me [to handle] because I’ve got to get him the ball.”
看到有个网友的翻译可能会更准确些(其实问题应该都是在翻译问题上,我们也没找到视频,毕竟环境、上下文、语气、表情等也都会影响一句话的意思)
接下来的赛季,由于背伤的反复困扰,麦迪开始尊重正在崛起的中国巨人。“姚是我们球队的重要组成部分,但是他并不是一个像沙克般25-15、25-14的统治力的家伙”麦迪说。“我甚至不觉得他场均得分能有20分,所以我还是要处理很多球权,因为我得让他得到球”
原文中说到姚明在系列赛拿到21.4分和7.7个篮板,我们查下数据,可以知道说的是04-05赛季季后赛,姚明上场31.6分钟,21.4分、7.7个篮板(3.3前板)、2.71个盖帽、失误2.71,这在当时真是很不错的数据。
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Yao was a big part of our team
姚明是我们球队的重要组成部分。
没有麦蜜夸,没有麦黑理的一句话。
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but he wasn’t a dominating guy like Shaq, a 25-and-15, a 25-and-14 guy
但是他并不是一个像沙克般25-15、25-14的统治力的家伙。
这句话也很有争议,对于姚明的球迷甚至大部分中国人来说,虽然没有夸张,但肯定难以接受;不像沙克这般的统治力,有多少人能有沙克这般的统治力,拿沙克来比较,我们觉得姚明真的很让人骄傲,就像拿乔丹来压科比压詹姆斯,科比、詹姆斯的球迷大部分能接受,这里并没有说姚明没有统治力,而是说不是沙克那种25+15的统治力(这里和姚明接近的20+10来说,应该更多的是指蓝本能力,沙克可以通过篮板为自己创造更多的进攻机会),其实姚明这赛季开始大跨步升级了,姚明自己的统治力开始逐渐显现
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I don’t even think he averaged 20 points
我甚至不觉得他场均得分能有20分
最有争议的一句话,像我们这样单独拿出来,就是断章取义的典型了,只能说麦迪确实说了,说了就说了,但接受一些球迷的评论,至于和姚明的关系,并不会因为这些而受到影响,但作为能独立思考的我们,也还是会关心下这句的上下文语境
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so it was still a lot for me [to handle]
所以我还是要处理很多球权
因为备注了[to handle],所以更多的是解释是处理很多球权,并不是谷歌字面上的翻译:“这对我来说很困难”。这里说要处理很多球权,一方面是当时麦迪认为姚明很难通过自主处理球得到20分,显然麦迪一开始低估了姚明,04-05季后赛系列赛第一次场均20+,姚明的巅峰期才要刚起步,麦迪04-05赛季刚到火箭,这个赛季场均打满40分钟。麦迪在魔术时可以算是单核,来火箭时估计对姚明期望也很高,希望双核驱动球队,04-05赛季之后麦迪再没有一个赛季场均上场超过38分钟,显然麦迪开始从巅峰下来,姚明正好要走向自己的巅峰
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because I’ve got to get him the ball
因为我得让他得到球
这句话,一方面麦迪腰伤,另一方面姚明正式崛起,麦迪至少知道球队还有另一个可靠的依靠,除了自己球权外,还需要把球交到球队里更厉害的队友手里,但由于当时火箭的后场很难把球交到姚明手里,需要麦迪来处理更多的球权,使得姚明可以更好的发挥优势,至少说明麦迪在接下来的05-06赛季是很期待和尊重姚明的
05-06赛季常规赛姚明场均上场34.2分钟(有点恐怖,现在看来),22.3分、10.2个篮板,明显升级了,第一次20+10(2010年前的20+10还是很稀有的)。但这个赛季,就是原文里说的“接下来的赛季里”,麦迪伤病只出场47场,姚明由于自身的强大开始得到队外及队内更多的尊重,包括麦迪。
接下来就是姚明短短7-8个赛季的巅峰期了,06-07赛季常规是麦迪的第10个赛季,是姚明的第5个赛季,麦迪已经逐渐走向打铁多的休斯敦麦迪,但依靠他球场意识仍然可以把控比赛,虽然姚明开始连续三年20+10,甚至得分可以到25,但困于伤病,05-06、06-07、07-08赛季平均出场都不到60场,我们很多人都觉得姚明的比赛场数应该得到控制(包括国际比赛),这样才能既保持健康,还能保持统治力。
从07-08赛季之后,火箭时期的麦迪腰伤、膝伤不断,赛季场均出场不足一半,两人健康一起的出战的场数少之又少。
两人的巅峰期错开了。
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